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Seawitch1939 12-15-2014 10:22 AM

My rig
 
Complete newbi here! So be nice! I'm looking for someone to come over to the boat, and inspect my rigging, sails, etc...and tel me what I'm dealing with , good and bad.

Person can stay on the boat in FL if they wish with me for a couple days, I got food and drinks, in trade for classic rigging knowlage, with some help teaching me the ropes. So to speak! :)

Who want's a few days in FL rent free. Must have experience with rigging on a gaff rigged schooner like this one! My girl.
Email me if you have a day or three @ willmansf3968@gmail.com
Anyone knows more then me at this point, so anyone is invited! Day trip or overnight staying on the boat. If your in the area, feel free to drop in and talk boats. She is around the space coast area of FL.






Ian McColgin 12-16-2014 01:01 PM

Start by learning that she's a ketch. A nice Angleman at that.

G'luck

aloha27 12-16-2014 06:27 PM

Survey
 
Is it a surveyor you're looking for?

Mason24 12-16-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aloha27 (Post 7415)
Is it a surveyor you're looking for?

Sure sounds like it.

Autonomous 12-16-2014 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloha27 (Post 7415)
Is it a surveyor you're looking for?

And a rigger too!
'Spose he'd help me paint my Harley if I let him stay in the tent?

FrayedKnotArts 12-17-2014 07:10 AM

Ya gotta admire his perseverance
 
Dude just doesn't give up. (Or learn.)

allene 12-17-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seawitch1939 (Post 7412)
Complete newbi here! So be nice! I'm looking for someone to come over to the boat, and inspect my rigging, sails, etc...and tel me what I'm dealing with , good and bad.

Person can stay on the boat in FL if they wish with me for a couple days, I got food and drinks, in trade for classic rigging knowlage, with some help teaching me the ropes. So to speak! :)

Who want's a few days in FL rent free. Must have experience with rigging on a gaff rigged schooner like this one! My girl.
Email me if you have a day or three @ willmansf3968@gmail.com
Anyone knows more then me at this point, so anyone is invited! Day trip or overnight staying on the boat. If your in the area, feel free to drop in and talk boats. She is around the space coast area of FL.






You have been told this many times. You didn't think it necessary but as the posts on specific things you are doing it is clear to me what you need to do is pay for a survey before you sink time an money into the boat. The surveyor can tell you what needs to be done with the rigging, if anything. You should not trust the advice of some random person looking for free beer. If the rig comes down, it totals the boat. At least it totals most boats, it totaled a friends boat. A new rig on that boat is probably $30k or more.

The best time to get a survey is before you buy the boat. Next is after you haul it. But if you are thinking of doing a lot of work before you haul, which is what it is sounding like, you really should get a survey first. Make sure it is a surveyor who has a good reputation among wood boat owners and not just for insurance surveys. A boat yard that does wood boats should be able to help find one.

I assume from what you have said that the boat is in reasonably good shape at least compared to the fears of others. But suppose the rudder shaft seal is bad like it was on my boat just before the last haulout. It might cost a few hundred dollars to fix but could sink the boat if it fails. What if the keel bolts are gone and the keel falls off. Have you put a torque wrench on them to see? If the answer to that is no, get the survey and find out what you bought.

aloha27 12-17-2014 10:42 AM

Ditto!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allene (Post 7423)
You have been told this many times. You didn't think it necessary but as the posts on specific things you are doing it is clear to me what you need to do is pay for a survey before you sink time an money into the boat. The surveyor can tell you what needs to be done with the rigging, if anything. You should not trust the advice of some random person looking for free beer. If the rig comes down, it totals the boat. At least it totals most boats, it totaled a friends boat. A new rig on that boat is probably $30k or more.

The best time to get a survey is before you buy the boat. Next is after you haul it. But if you are thinking of doing a lot of work before you haul, which is what it is sounding like, you really should get a survey first. Make sure it is a surveyor who has a good reputation among wood boat owners and not just for insurance surveys. A boat yard that does wood boats should be able to help find one.

I assume from what you have said that the boat is in reasonably good shape at least compared to the fears of others. But suppose the rudder shaft seal is bad like it was on my boat just before the last haulout. It might cost a few hundred dollars to fix but could sink the boat if it fails. What if the keel bolts are gone and the keel falls off. Have you put a torque wrench on them to see? If the answer to that is no, get the survey and find out what you bought.

^
This.

There is a world of difference between an insurance survey and buyer's survey.
Trust me.

Brion Toss 12-17-2014 02:23 PM

Perspective
 
Hello,
As Ian said, first learn the difference between a ketch and a schooner. Whether you realize it or not, you are now part of a community where awareness of such distinctions is more than a matter of jargon.
Next, it is extraordinarily unlikely that anyone who could provide meaningful, reliable advice of the kind you are asking for would be interested in your offer; a qualified person would more likely be amused. Or insulted. It is like buying a fixer-upper house, and offering free room and board to an experienced architect to go over the design of the place.
From the picture, this looks like an uncommonly well-done rig, but yikes, so much could be going on.
Fair leads,
Brion Toss


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