[SV Papillon]

Originally Posted by Brion Toss

Hi,
Some time ago I did a few destruction tests on the Shovel Splice, as well as other rope/chain techniques. As I recall, no Shovel sample tested much above 70% efficiency;

Did they strands seperate or just pull out of the chain?

As for the "drawback" of hanging onto only one link, this is exactly what is happening at every link.

Poor wording on my part I do understand the concept of a chain, was refering to the line chaffe on the single link which in your expieriance seems to not be a issue

I used to worry about chafe, and took great pains to seize tightly to the chain link, but never saw evidence of chafe on that radius; apparently it is easier for the chain to swivel on the next link than on the rope.

The only 100% results we got were for the "Traditional Irony"

What is that? Is it in the Apprentice or the big book of knots, can't remeber the name I have a copy at home.
Brion Toss

Thanks

Jake