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Old 02-15-2008, 03:48 AM
Ian McColgin Ian McColgin is offline
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I've not observed excess corrosion under even tight plastic. I prefer slightly loose tubing so the lines can roll over the shroud but this, like the even nicer wood rollers, may seem to some excess windage and to others clunky looking.

Shrouds generally go at a fitting, where the wire has been stressed and salts can accumulate with moisture.

While on covers and to vent a pet peave: For stainless and bronze turnbuckles, I hate turnbuckle boots and hate tape even more. A properly installed turnbuckle with properly sized cotters and clevises leaves no sharp protrusions, especially if one uses Brion's trick with the welding rod in the turnbuckle studs.

For galvi or iron turnbuckles, there's nothing like a nicely fitted sewn leather boot that's packed with lanolin or even waterpump grease.

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Old 02-15-2008, 09:29 AM
bwindrope bwindrope is offline
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Thanks for the input Ian,
Are you a rigger and have seen countless shrouds under these conditions? I see those bulky roller things on people's shrouds and wondered whether they were intended to allow better oxygen flow to reduce corrosion. If that's not the reason for them, then I agree with those who find them unattractive. Also, although a minor point, I would rather not have something rolly on my shroud when I have to grab it for stability.

I share your views on turnbuckles. All the literature supports it too. That was the origin of my concern about shroud sleeves. I have nice new Hayn chromed bronze turnbuckles that are just beautiful. At least, to all of us who marvel at elegant machinery they are beautiful. I'm looking for that stainless welding rod and will go that route when I find some, but in the meantime use large gauge cotter rings that face inward and present no edges.

Thanks again
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:40 AM
Brion Toss Brion Toss is offline
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Hello,
I'm with Ian on the turnbuckles (and any welding supply shop will have TIG rod, probably in both stainless and bronze), but I have seen numerous wire failures from tight-fitting covers. The problem is by far the most serious in warmer climes. My favorite story was about an owner who religiously checked his terminals and the bottom of the wire, by sliding the shroud covers up a few inches, then sliding them back down. The wire broke near the top of one cover, and the rig went over.
Loose-fitting rollers can be disorienting to grab onto, but I actually prefer them, as they make it easy to swing past the shroud. They also can roll as the sail passes, and present a much larger radius to the sail, reducing chafe that much better.
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Brion Toss
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Ian McColgin Ian McColgin is offline
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Thank you Brion. My lack of tropical experience shows in issues like this.

While I have worked as a rigger, learned from some real masters, been attentivly observing boats for most of my 60 years, and was when younger a mountaineer and steeplejack, there's a lot about rigging I don't know, especially as one gets to the heavy commercial side like big cranes.
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