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Old 05-22-2008, 10:26 AM
Russ L Russ L is offline
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Hi John,
Keepers if you must but there is a better way, according to Brion.
The Crown (shackle) splice.

Cheers, Russ

<...splicing directly to a shackle with a Crown Splice. I'd prefer the latter in most instances.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:31 PM
John Jamieson John Jamieson is offline
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Thanks again. I saw the advice on the crown splice. I'll let them know about this.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:10 PM
Ian McColgin Ian McColgin is offline
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Got it. Of course with a not too frequently used anchor or in fresh water, the electrolytic corrosion of the thimble on the chain would not be an issue. I sure agree that the plastic thimbles are worse than nothing. And I'm a big fan of the shackle (back) splice on a shackle or the chain itself. The former is easier for those who don't do lots of splicing as you can make the crown knot in the normal way but loosely, work the shackle bow in place, and then pull things right. Forming the crown knot around a closed chain takes a bit more concentration.

The shackle-back splice is far less subject to chafe than the line on an eye that's dragged over the bottom, it stows more neatly, and is far less likely to hang up when running the anchor.

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Old 05-22-2008, 02:45 PM
John Jamieson John Jamieson is offline
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Ian,
They're setting up a ground tackle system for a storm anchor for cruising. Great idea about the crown splice. I'll pass along all of you guys' excellent recommendations.
Best - J.
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:09 AM
Ian McColgin Ian McColgin is offline
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Remind them that more storm anchor gear fails at the chocks than anywhere else - fair leads and chafe gear.

By the way, a pair of anchors in series is exponentially stronger than a pair of anchors on seperate rodes. I try to put about the water depth of chain between the two for convenience in bringing the super-dug-in gear aboard at the end of the storm any you still want a trip line to the crown of the farther out hook. In situations where there's likely to be a large wind shift, better to have the anchors shaft to crown with but a short or even no chain between as they will then turn and reset better.

I am a big fan of the series anchor pair on a single rode. That means being very serious about protecting that rode but, think about it, what's you chance if you've two anchors out in the classic V and one rode fails? The other's likely to go pretty soon after.

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Old 05-23-2008, 05:48 AM
John Jamieson John Jamieson is offline
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Absolutely. I wrote them on the critical need to use chafing gear. Good stuff about the series anchors. I'm a big believer in this too. Nothing worse than fouled rodes. I'll send along your excellent advice.
Best - J.
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